This is like offering them reparations for what Saul had done, and they replied that it was not good enough. Then they answered the king, "As for the man who consumed us and plotted against us, that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the territories of Israel, "let seven men of his descendants be delivered to us, and we will hang them before the LORD in Gibeah of Saul, whom the LORD chose." But, he did not. You cannot tell. Two years is a long time. Now the Gibeonites were not of the people of Israel but of the remnant of the Amorites. The Israelites had taken an oath concerning them, but in his zeal for Israel and Judah, Saul had sought to kill them.) Instead of warfare and bloodshed, their weapons were guile and deceit. So they thought, "Hmm. Saul committed a great crime against Gibeon and the Gibeonites. This is in the second commandment. We have examples of where that has happened, but he did not do that this time. Exodus 21:23-25 But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. THE STORY OF JOSEPH - Their special, if dishonest, dealings with the leaders of Israel gained them a notoriety that most of the tribes and clans of the ancient Mid-East never attained. How do other hominoids (e.g homo erectus, homo neanderthalensis, etc.) These cagey enemies of God's people were destined to be destroyed, so they devised a simple, but clever scheme to deceive Israel in the hope of saving their own necks. These conflicting views on Saul would continue long past the biblical era and into modern times. We are not finished with that yet, because, who were the Gibeonites? We know that you said not to make a covenant with the people the land. He got a little weird, throwing spears at David (and Jonathan too, once). Web16 And it happened at the end of three days, after they had made a covenant with them, that they heard that they were their neighbors who dwelt near them. My supposition is that he may have been still questioning God about the way his reign seemed to have crumbled, and all he had was enemies around him. In fact, look down to verse 15, II Samuel 21:15-17 When the Philistines were at war again with Israel, David and his servants with him went down and fought against the Philistines; and David grew faint. That is that he could have gone along with the Gibeonite's demands in order to get rid of seven possible contenders for his throne. lorraine goode. (Now the Gibeonites were not Israelites, but a remnant of the Amorites. All I do know is that they do hold a solid place in world history and one of their offshoots or branches were the Gibeonites. You had only black and white television if you had television. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. And, it certainly does not record that David took this to God for His solution to it. It is the time of the beginning of the barley harvest. God!before the Lordin Gibeah of Saul. So, give or take, 40 to 50 years have passed. Why didnt Abraham bargain with God when it came to Isaac being offered as a burnt offering like he did when it came to Sodom and Gomorrah? He is beyond us; it does not make any sense. Samuel turns away; Saul grabs at him and only catches his robe, and tears it. He asked me, "How does this incident square with what God says in Ezekiel 18:19-20?". The scriptures are not very definitive as to why. When we read the history of skirmishes and battles between the Gibeonites and Israelites we get a They probably went from Gibeon by some circuitous route so they did not come directly from the west where they actually lived. Does the devil have power to make us sick? Share They wanted blood by putting to death seven male descendants to die for the crimes of that house against the Gibeonites. David then goes to Gibeonites and asked to make amends. And we bear the guilt with them for that. Some unfinished business here needs to be taken care of. He was distracted. He is able to judge justly. "Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? Weba motive for Saul's attack on them. To put it in a more modern time setting, a lot of people prefer Batman (the dark one), or Spiderman (the geek), to Superman for the very same reasons. Deuteronomy 19:7-10 Therefore I command you, saying, 'You shall separate three cities for yourself.' Here are guidelines to help facilitate a meaningful learning experience for everyone. Also David seems to have only spared Mephibosheth only because he made an oath, and not for the fact that he was only five years old and did not participate in killing the Gibeonites? He was setting us an example of what we should be doing in a spiritual sense. Was John the Baptist conceived via an immaculate conception? As mentioned earlier, there was the rebellion of Absalom. If, in the event the Israelis ever came their way, they would be servants to the people of Israel. Today, I want to visit one of King David's lesser-known black marks, and draw some lessons from it at the end. It would have been the answer. Much later, King Saul ignored this covenant of peace and killed some Gibeonites. SERIES INTRODUCTION Jonathan and Saul led the What Saul did was commit another presumptuous sin. We have our own sins to pay for; we do not pay for theirs. fit into Creation? This indicates that God was not pleased, whatsoever, with how this situation was resolved by David. And they took old sacks on their donkeys, old wineskins torn and mended, old and patched sandals on their feet, and old garments on themselves; and all the bread of their provision was dry and moldy. Scripture has said this explicitly. The breach of contract was serious enough that God sent the famine in response. It was not just Saul, but other members of his family. I think he was distracted by all the cares of his office of being king. and for his bloody house. The higher the vote, the further up an answer is. And the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites. And David was told what Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, the concubine of Saul, had done. "Now therefore, you are cursed, and none of you shall be freed from being slaveswoodcutters and water carriers for the house of my God." This incident of the famine took place rather late in David's life. The historical narrative of King David is drawing to a close. Why were two of Saul's sons and five of Saul's grandsons killed for a crime they didn't commit? Why so? Oh, taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the man who trusts in Him! God revealed that this calamity happened because of "Saul and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites ." He keeps his word even to his own disadvantage and does not change it [for his own benefit] (Psalm 15:1, 4; AMP). WebThe LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites. Because of their peace treaty and their oath with the Gibeonites, which included these people. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. Web11 Then the king sent for the priest Ahimelek son of Ahitub and all the men of his family, who were the priests at Nob, and they all came to the king. Deep and long lasting trouble for both parties - both the Israelites and the Gibeonites - was the fruit of this clever, but calamitous deception. Those who believe that they can outsmart, outflank or in any way outmaneuver our Enemy through cerebral strategies are doomed to the slavery and destruction heaped upon Saul and the Gibeonites. He committed colossal sins that whole nations would be held in contempt for. Would it be a good alliance to have with these people from far away?". Throughout the Scriptures warnings of spiritual dangers are signaled by the flash cards of attention getting words like: "Take heed" or "Consider". Then there is another thing. LAMECH: FALL OUT FROM POLYGAMY; 5. He resolved properlynot without a lot of death, with 70,000 dead in that plague, but at least he had the repentant attitude by the time it was over. The Bible barely alludes to the king's mad scheme, but we know that Saul's plot miserably failed. The famine was a punishment for Sauls violation of the covenant, made with the Gibeonites back during the days of Joshua. Jerusalem is almost directly west a few miles, but it is quite high from the Jordan to the Jerusalem. The second is at the end of verse 2, that "Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for Israel and Judah." How much food did Jesus produce? The words "thirty" and "forty" are not in the original Hebrew. Joshua and that generation did not do their entire job, and so they were stuck. This is interesting. And Agag, he's a nice guy! Summary:2 Samuel Chapter 212 Samuel 21 Avenging the Gibeonites A. David avenges the Gibeonites. This traditional doctrine, as heard in a Catholic or Protestant church, would say that this sin of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden rests upon us still. I do not think that King David thought through the implications of this matter very well. The Gibeonites decided on a different strategy. So they performed all that the king commanded. And she did not allow the birds of the air to rest on them by day nor the beasts of the field by night. And if He sinned, then He could not be our Savior. They made their dust-covered clothes to look worn and ragged as if they had been on the road for many days, even months. I think he was looking at Adonijah and Solomon, and seeing the positioning for the throne, and he just wanted to throw up his handsflee like some bird (Psalm 139). Numbers 35:29-33 And these things shall be a statute of judgment to you throughout your generations in all your dwellings. It is in II Samuel 21. The people of the land stand for our spiritual enemiesour human nature, this world, and Satan the Devil. He was far from God during this time. Perhaps the Scriptures are contrasting the faithless actions of Saul and his house in regard to the covenant with the Gibeonites, with the faithful actions of David in regard to the covenant with Jonathan. The young lions lack and suffer hunger; but those who seek the LORD shall not lack any good thing. If we would go back to Leviticus 26, we will see that David should have known that famine was no small thing in God's arsenal. That is basically how it was. WebWhich city did Saul destroy when he found that its priests had given David's men provision? Oh, fear the LORD, you His saints! The Israelites had promised not to This is a major reason why the church of God does not subscribe to the traditional doctrine of "The Fall of Man." II Samuel 21:8-9 So the king took Armoni and Mephibosheth, the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bore to Saul; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite; and he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the LORD. 20, and still another between Saul and David in 1 Samuel 24. There are things like destruction for their sin, and the family takes that long to recover from that destruction. As we get to about verse 32 in Hebrews 11, Paul says that he does not have time to get to all the other heroes of faith that the Bible gives us. CONFLICT OF THE AGES ARTICLES They haven't been put in Kish's sepulcher yet. It's much too heavy any more!" It does not require at all times that a person guilty of bloodshed die. or who shall stand in his holy place? And the Gibeonites said to him, "We will have no silver or gold from Saul or from his house, nor shall you kill any man in Israel for us." VERSE 2. You didn't do it. WebThe Gibeonites Hang Saul's Descendants 21 While David was king, there were three years in a row when the nation of Israel could not grow enough food. In Rizpahs case, her husband, King Saul, broke his promise that the Israelites would spare the Gibeonites in battle; he ordered the Israelites to annihilate them. Turn to Exodus 20 and see that right in the Ten Commandments it sounds like it could mean that sin does travel down the family tree. WebWe will attack Gibeon, because they have made peace with Joshua and the Israelites." But, you would think that after two years you would get the idea that this was not breaking. It cut us off from God. It shows you just how far things had sunk in the land. It comes as a snare, Christ says, on everybody. He went after a people that God did not want exterminated anymore. I am putting this all together from history. God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. So, he spared Agag, and he spared a lot of the good stuff. WebA three years' famine in the days of David was attributed to God's anger at the unexpiated crime of Saul in slaying the Gibeonites. Gave 7 of Saul's sons to the Gibeonites. If what happened against Gibeon occurred during Saul's reign, even if it was in the latter half, it would mean it was at least (if we are in the last decade of King David's reign) that the massacre of Gibeonites occurred 40 or 50 years earlier. Also, the Lord pronounced, It is a result of the massacre by Saul and welcome classification because Saul indeed destroyed the Gibeonites in the Bible. It would take three or four generations for perversion to be kicked out of a society. Israel was totally swindled and bamboozled. God told Joshua to get rid of all these foreigners in the land. And with what shall I make atonement, that you may bless the inheritance of the LORD?" He did not negotiate at all. Hearing that Joshua was camped in their general neighborhood, after his devastating defeat of the strategic cities of Jericho and Ai, the Gibeonites sent a delegation to him at nearby Gilgal. Perhaps if I go and kill all the Gibeonites like Joshua was supposed to do, maybe God will let me back into the chair.". Without checking out their story; without surveying the geographical situation; most of all, without consulting the Lord and waiting for His guidance, Joshua went impulsively ahead and signed a binding, lasting agreement with the Gibeonites. Her actions made David realize that he had violated another of God's commands by leaving the bodies of Saul, Jonathan, and the seven other sons unburied. The Bible doesnt really say. This is taken from the book Antiquities of the Jews, pg. 7: AFTER this, when the country was greatly afflicted with a By this time, having fought all his life since he was a teenagerup against Goliath when he was eighteen or soand here he was approaching 70 years old, and he was tired. Notice God declares that the bloodguilt was not just on Saul, but also his house. Luke 21:36 "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.". Therefore, this curse goes down until the gene pool is able to kick it outthree or four generations. And with what shall I make atonement, that you may bless the inheritance of the LORD? Only after three days did they discover that their "far-distant" allies were really next-door neighbors! but Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah. ", If you are on your spiritual game, and famine is occurring in your land, do you wait three years until thousands may have died? They decided to fight with the Gibeonites and teach them a lesson. And it would have been done quickly and easily. Go back with me to Deuteronomy 7 and see the instruction that God gave to Israel about how to deal with these kinds of people. Perhaps he thought, "Hmm. Exodus 20:4-6 You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. PHARAOH AND HAMAN - When this righteous ruler turned to God, the Lord showed him that arrogant error of his predecessor. WebVetus Testamentum 24:1 (January 1974):1-7.] This has become known as the "eye for an eye principle." Had David been righteous and been crying out to God, God would have heard him. The problem was that God had not told Saul to do this, God had told Joshua to do that. WebThe consequences of Israels covenant with the Gibeonites were not short-term. Report, September 02 2013 I also want you to see how warlike Saul was. Christ says, Luke 21:34-35 "But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. You see, famine on the scale like thisthree yearsis a sign from God that things were not copacetic in the land. And the king said, "I will give them." Then Ishbi-Benob, who was one of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose bronze spear was three hundred shekels, who was bearing a new sword, thought he could kill David. ESV - Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. Something is wrong. II Samuel 21:7 But the king spared Mephibosheth the son of Jonathan, the son of Saul, because of the LORD's oath that was between them, between David and Jonathan the son of Saul. God affirms that the famine is punishment for Sauls massacre of the Gibeonites, who had been protected by a treaty since the Israelites first invaded the Promised Land ( Joshua 9:127 ). It looks to me like he tried to work out a political solution rather than a righteous one. He was distracted by the cares of this world, by the pulls of this, that, and the other thing, and so he gives in and compromises with the people of the land. God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. WebA famine lasting three years hit Israel during the earlier half of David 's reign at Jerusalem. His anger at the There should have been payment for it. What do we do in a time of spiritual famine? The Gibeonites merely asked for a mutual help pact that would guarantee not only mercy and aid from Israel, but protection from their common enemies. But, the others were Saul's grandsons. God required atonement to be made. He became jealous and he went wacko, basically. When the Gibeonites heard that the other nations were going to attack them, they sent a message to Joshua and the people, Help! 21:2, NIV).2 Saul did this in his zeal for Israel and Judah. So for nationalistic reasons Saul was guilty of attempted genocide. He attempted the genocide of There is no want to those who fear Him. They did what is recalled in verses 3 through 6 above. Nearly two-thirds of American professing Christians believe that their Savior sinned. Saul agreed, and off he went. Because David had been good friends with Jonathan, he at first allowed all of Sauls family to continue to live peaceably in the land. Saul became a bit strange in the head after this, if you will remember. . Ezekiel 18 makes it clear that God punishes people for their own iniquity. Therefore David said to the Gibeonites, "What shall I do for you? Spiritual Strongholds (Part Two): Faithful Trust. According to a May 2007 George Barna Poll, 63% of Americans, mostly professing Christians, believe that Jesus sinned during His physical life! Sheba's rebellion is in the previous chapter, II Samuel 20. 2 So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them. by LeRoy Gardenier ", "She's been doing that for six months? They were appeasing their own god to send rain. This was a long time ago. Then David went and took the bones of Saul, and the bones of Jonathan his son, from the men of Jabesh Gilead who had stolen them from the street of Beth Shan, where the Philistines had hung them up, after the Philistines had struck down Saul in Gilboa. Another possibility is that when Saul slew many of the priests at Nob he also executed many Gibeonites (1 Samuel 22:19). 17 Then the children of Israel journeyed and came to their cities on the third day. However, there was not. The person who commits a sin is guilty of that sin, and God punishes that person for that sin. That would be such a carnal thing to dojust let the Gibeonites kill seven of Saul's kids who could claim the Israelite throne and get them out of the way. Share How long was the average lifespan at the time? With all the recent rebellions, he was probably worried that his alliances were going to fail, because he may have appeared to weaken. Back in I Samuel 15, Saul was told by God through Samuel to go up against the Amalekites, and to destroy everything in sight, do not spare anything; exterminate them. What have they done? He does not seem to have asked the priest who would know the law the best to find out what Scripture said about situations like this. He had to plead to God for clearing and forgiveness, for cleaning up, because he knew it was not in himself to do that. Why did God allow the Gibeonites to put to death seven of Sauls sons? A little further down, we read: II Samuel 21:2 . It seems as though he was spiritually sleepwalking through this whole thing. For the Gibeonites, their wily guile and deception gained them survival and nothing more. He just weakly said, "Oh okay, whatever you want. He did not perform any miracle, or any other thing to show that He was happy with the way that things turned out. Saul killed a lot of people. King Saul would conscript them into the army, and off they would go in a bloodthirsty rage against somebody else. The "Man of Steel" is just too perfect, too smart, and too invincible. He enslaved them all, and made them wood cutters and menial laborers at the Tabernacle. Then they answered the king, "As for the man who consumed us and plotted against us, that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the territories of Israel, "let seven men of his descendants be delivered to us, and we will hang them before the LORD in Gibeah of Saul, whom the LORD chose." As Christians living amidst spiritual famine, we dare not compromise with the culture around us. Jamieson, Fausset and Brown comments: It was a heathen practice to gibbet men with a view of appeasing the anger of the gods in seasons of famine, and the Gibeonites, who were a remnant of the Amorites, though brought to the knowledge of the true God, were not, it seems, free from this superstition. Evidently, that is what he did. So, he kept his own covenant, but he did not go any further to figure out from God's law to know what should be done in this situation. He just let them walk all over him. How did the spirit of God move upon the face of the waters in Genesis 1:2? Is there something I'm missing? Joshua 9:3-6 But when the inhabitants of Gibeon heard what Joshua had done to Jericho and Ai, they worked craftily [remember that], and went and pretended to be ambassadors. One of the things He specifically mentions is famine, which happens to be the third sealphysical famine, but we remember from Amos that there is a spiritual famine as well. This could indicate that the sons of Saul were actively implicated in this attempted genocide, although we cannot tell for sure as the details of this awful event are not recorded. he put the Gibeonites to death. So, others besides Saul were guilty. He does not live long past the end of II Samuel. September 01 2013 They got a couple of their men, maybe elders, and got them to appear like they came along distance. Joshua kept his word to the Gibeonites even when it was inconvenient. So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." It is after Absalom's rebellion. David was Born Mar 2, 2022 A three-year famine occurs as a result of Sauls attack on the Gibeonites Mar 2, 2022. Moreover, the Gibeonites who survived remembered, and they wanted blood when they were asked. Only when the Gibeonites were under siege from a common enemy and were calling in the marker on their mutual aid treaty did the Israelites turn to God for counsel and advice. 1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. Nevertheless, he names a few of them. After 7-10 years of war, David has solidified his empire Mar 2, 2022. That would be a town in Benjamin just north of Jerusalem. This is a bit unusual. That is the background on the Gibeonites, and their relationship with Israel. There was no negotiation; there was no calling them on anything. The Gibeonites have the dubious distinction of having duped Joshua and the elders of Israel. Let me ask God about this. There is no record in the Bible of Saul killing Gibeonites. Therefore, there was a different system of justice than what the Gentiles were used to. It is his sin. Up and down your family tree, sin does not go. David was annonted by Sammuel Apr 10, 1035. Now, we move forward, not very long in time, to Joshua 9. It won't do anybody any good lying here dead. And these men, they need to be buried. I don't know a great deal about this particular segment of those biblical people called the Hittites. Just tell me and I will do it for you.. WebDavid serves Saul with music on his harp Nov 24, 1025. Throughout the centuries, the original Gibeonites continued to exist as a people, although King Saul schemed to destroy them. The Gibeonites, howev Does the Bible encourage the practice of Lent? We see in this little vignette that innocent people die; grief lingers forever; idolatry is committed; and the curse of famine continues; another harvest fails; and the land remains defiled; everything stinks of death. Finally, after six or seven months, the rains came in their natural cycle. ( v.1 ) So God sent a famine to punish a kingdom for something that a former king supposedly did. 1. Web2 Samuel 21:2 indicates that King Saul pursued the Gibeonites and sought to kill them off "in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah" (2 Samuel 21:5). God extends blessings far farther into the future than He does the curses. God is not bloodthirsty, but He had told them what to do. Then they were able to pick up the pieces of their lives and move forward by the strength that God gave them to overcome and to grow, and to put on the mindthe characterof Christ. (4:10). Notice verse 2 says that Saul tried to strike them down in his zeal (also means jealously or envy) for the people of Israel and Judah. Israel plagued by allowing the deception Therefore, one of the first things that Joshua and the Israelites do is they allow a big problem to linger in their midst. That the famine continued indicates God displeasure with David's decision and inner motives. Hebrews 11 exhibits a whole chapter of men and women just like us who, despite their humanity and frequent foibles, fought the good fight of faith and were victorious in the end through the grace of God. The world's arsenal is growing daily in material strength and sophisticated intimidation. Exodus 21:12-13 "He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death. King David was probably huffing and puffing, "I can't lift this thing! We have all followed in the same way of life as our first parents Adam and Eve. In fact, it can be read as if David approached it as only a minor administrative matter. He just let the natural cycles take their course. Israel and Judah," who may have fretted at the inconvenience of having the Gibeonites among them. We can't withstand them. The children of Israel gathered and went across the Jordan River, and set up camp at Gilgal. Notice the timing and the manner of the execution. Back to the Gibeonitesmost people probably did not remember it. They were a group of Amorites. Saul had four sons. * Jonathanhe befriended David, died with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Abinadabdied with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Malchishuadied with If people grow up in a society and culture that does not have God at their beck and call, they do whatever they wantwhatever comes naturally. After that, God heeded the prayer of the land. WebThe alliance with the Gibeonites lasted for centuries, until Saul - in his zeal (21, 2) - decided that the ancient covenant was no longer binding. Lets read about David avenging the Gibeonites in 2 Samuel 21:1-14: 1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year. It is easy to read this story blithely, and to think that David righted some longstanding wrongs that had happened, and then God happily sent rain to the parched land of Israel. Until the gene pool is able to kick it outthree or four generations head after,! 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