The factory was built by working around the clock during 1942 and was provided with capstans, drilling and milling machines, centre lathes, a steel-hardening and processing plant, and a centre-less grinding machine. BSA from 1943 to 1945 was receiving fore wood and buttstock sets from Sykes Limited in walnut - these were marked S.L. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Serial number observations suggest about 7,000 were made. 5 carbines have ONLY four digit serial numbers. Lee Enfield #4 MK1 - MARSTAR CANADA. Henry Repeating Arms recently presented a $25,000 check a nonprofit organization that provides support and programs for the families and co-workers of firefighters killed in the line of duty. Plastic Mk. During refurbishment the bulk of German markings were scrubbed (although some waffenampts are still present and evidence of markings being removed is clear), further the original . Hosted by Andy H. Gruff, I don't know but will check mine when I get home tonight and report in if it is on mine. Most of these seem to have been released / imported in the 1980s. However, these scabbards are encountered far too frequently for only 25,000 to have been made. II was a simplified version, eliminating the milling cuts required to create the cruciform blade flutes. Thanks to inter-war development, an improved and simplified design was waiting in the wings, and the No. Prior to obtaining independence in 1946, Jordan was a British Protectorate, known as Transjordan. This No. The scabbard is a Mk. This lowered costs and allowed manufacture by subcontractors. The remnants of the wartime marking are lined through and the new marking applied above. The No. ,DTvb5@ kg:v%A$6%#,6J,q]+9 V ,,mD$\"L3-p0$z2 cC+`i`,pIt jns;Nt=_e9AA r ^G? Two-piece construction gives the No. 0000012831 00000 n II* bayonets from 19421945. 4 rifle into at least the 1960s. 1 Enfield rifle was adopted by the United Kingdom in 1941. by verdenpark 26 Mar 2012, 07:11, Post Sight system is wing protected blade front with flip up dual aperture rear, with calibrations of 800 yards. Savage used variations of both a plain "s" and an "s" inside a Square. No. Firing mechanism is Enfield pull cocker type, with left side serrated safety lever. by Steve Hoog 23 Mar 2012, 02:44, Post The frog measures 4.875in. Truth be known about Enfield serial numbers is simply, the serial number was used more for production counting than any other reason. I've seen guys actually twist the action because they are so tight. Prince-Smith & Stells in Keighly, Yorkshire, produced 1,057,515 No. 4 Mk. 1 scabbards. The butt stock above was taken from a real BSA No4T - it is clearly a service replacement - but not by a British armorer - the serial number for the rifle is stamped with 2 sets of numbers - on 3/8" and the other 1/4" - rather crookedly. In the British war time contract scheme there were 2 phases of demarcation - early / pre-war marks, and later regionalized contractor codes, For mid 1943 and down you are seeking the early war markings from Singer (SM), after that seek the regional producer code (S69 - for Southern region, 69th contractor). 0000003043 00000 n Baird marked their bayonets two different ways: Some No. Scabbard (frog stud): "Bg" over Crown-JF proofmark. 0000013021 00000 n Singer and other producers (Savage has been observed). Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 Serial Numbers. There are almost 2 years of rifle production that did not receive this triangular sling swivel at the factory and would have it added in service - especially prolonged Cold War British service - it is still possible to encounter a rifle that was an early discharge / loss that never received the triangular swivel update. he! 1 Mk. All of the numbers on the metal (except the magazine) are matching. Early No4 rifles were produced with the micrometer sight by the rifle manufacturer (Enfield Lock - "E over D" for the Trials rifles). P.S.K. 4 bayonets went to New Zealand. BO 12151 (the five digit no. . This revised specimen was the best of its type and was still in use by NATO forces. The real loop is similarly for adjusting tautness from the biceps to the butt sling of the rifle when in the firing shoulder "pocket". #6. SMLE rifle manufacturers were given no serial ranges to begin or end production with, so it is possible that two rifles may exist with the same serial number produced at different factories. 0000001927 00000 n 4 Mk 1* rifle I have are the following on the left side of the metal band holding the buttstock to the receiver assembly: (1) "1944" (with the 4 overstriking what. Popularly known as the "Victory Plastics" scabbard, it was unique in design compared to all other No. These prefixes can be used to authenticate these rifles if found in a gun shop or personal collection. An increasing consensus is that this simply may be a viewer's mark, as this mark seems only to be found on Baird No. LEE ENFIELD NO. Each loop does its own job - the middle loop of each is for the biceps - typically retaining at least one keeper to synch down around the middle of the upper arm when in position. Canadian Arsenals trademark was adopted in 1947, Spirit of the Pike - British Socket Bayonets of the 20th Century, British No. Our Price: 295.00: Gunner Points: 29: Stock Info: 1 In Stock: Parker Hale 8/53 Lee Enfield No4 rear sight (PH1) . I don't see any other markings, but the paint is quite heavy, so there . UKSkennerton's Arms and Militaria Press. Qty 1 F Sep 1986 A quantity of No. The last year observed on these sights using the SM mark is 1943 as per the right hand example, then the S69 code is used - again on major components (sight ladder (top left of the face), cursor (left side), elevation screw (top) and elevations screw nut (back). Though, looking at the photos, it could mean the same. Most likely Jordanian from the Arab Legion, but could also have been used by Iraq. 30,000 rod forgings. 0000000016 00000 n Date of Manuf: Cheek Piece and Screws - The birch / beech / walnut cheek piece design and material specification were first developed for the No3T - the scoped Pattern '14 rifles. Hollands would mark all rifles that they converted, not spare parts. The last picture shows an unusual Prince-Smith mark comprised of a large "56" on the socket face. The number actually produced is believed to be 250,000. 4Mk. Canadian Arsenals, Ltd. was the post-war successor to Long Branch. The Indian plant stamped their own serial number into the top of the receiver. 4 bayonets. It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! I will have to check through Skennerton tonight. I will continue to add additional variants as I acquire additional pieces. Production occurred during the latter half of 1941 and into the early months of 1942. In correspondence, Anthony Carter indicated that Brades was the maker of many of the entrenching tools. Certain serial number prefixes were reserved for trial rifles and specific rifle types. examples with "E", "F" and "S" marks in a bright blued finish (often with a triangle that is a little too tight for the leather 1907 sling). The Lee-Enfield bolt-action, magazine-fed, repeating rifle was the main firearm used by the military forces of the British Empire and Commonwealth during the first half of the 19th century. Inspection marks on the receiver ring. Since the Government arms factories were already running at capacity producing rifles and machine guns, private contracts were let for bayonet production. There were basic diagrams and instructions in the various Sniping training pamphlets, however I wanted to add a little more description and variation (with photos. The demand of new ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle's has risen 6 units over the past 12 months. The sling worked well enough in dry / sunny climates like Africa and Italy, but in the UK training camps and northern Europe they were found to be "slippy" to use and needing lots of preservative (Dubbin) to survive the wet conditions. About the rifles. 5 S.D. S191 was Franco-British Electrical's dispersal code. trailer P.S.S. The metal components of the early examples were oil blackened, making a durable dull black finish. Nice rifle regardless That was my original though, I know I wont get a 100g% sure answer I'm just looking for most likely. Savage rear micrometer sights have some unique machining features in the battle peep - which will be missing on the T format versions. These were originated for the No4 rifle design by Singer Machine Co, hence they are often referred to as a "singer sight". 4 Mk I, chambered in the same .303 British cartridge as the SMLE, retained the better features of the SMLE (in 1926, the SMLE was renamed the No. Seen in the picture above are the places where the serial number and manufacturer can be found. Method: 1 Hollands also wrote the serial number of the rifle in pencil on the inside of the barrel channel on wooden fore end sections - just the serial number and not the letters have been observed. When the number sequence reached 9999 the next letter assigned to the factory would be substituted in place of the former. The following illustrates the four bayonet and scabbard types that were mass produced; and some unusual variants that I have acquired. 0000007555 00000 n II was otherwise identical to the Mk. The easiest way to identify a "Jungle Carbine" rifle is to look for the markings on the left hand side of the receiver; a genuine No. Buy Lee Enfield spike bayonet with scabbard No3 Mk1 No4 Mk2: GunBroker is the largest seller of Bayonets Knives & Swords All: 972734854 . 5,949. I sniper variants. The prefixes were assigned as follows: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, L, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T ,U, V, W, Y ,Y, Z, AA, AB, AC. 4Mk. Prior to their creation a variety of WWI sniper rifles were in use. After hostilities the No4T parts and CES lists were re-standardized with the 1907 USA Leather Sling as a standard (despite the progress and learning). . Hey guys, I just recently was given by my boss a Lee Enfield NO.4 MK1 303 British that I am trying to gather all the info about. There must have been a lot of them to survive 2 world wars and all the action and attrition they were exposed to. 150.00. Sujet: Re: Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 vs Armes modernes en .308 Aujourd'hui 20:28: Pour en possder une, j'ai une tikka T3x tac en 308 , et 600m ft un temps les rsultats taient prometteurs . The Lee-Enfield No. Carries the electropenciled New Zealand property marking and serial number. xref Early blued steel mouthpiece marked: "No. Of the rifles I have examined this appears 1 in 10 or so times on real rifles - applicable to 1943 to 1946 production. No4 rifles were given a starting number that may be used to identify manufacturers, but again there was no set serial blocks. Four scabbard designs saw significant use with the No. These come for the Lee-Enfield No.4 MK1. 196,200 were produced, all by Joseph Lucas Ltd., Chester Street, Birmingham. The rifle Savage produced was the Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.1*, a British military design that was adopted by the U.K. just a few years before World War II began. "S" inside a square. GI#: 102214907. The Belgian Army transitioned to the FN Model 1949 rifle beginning in 1951. III (substitute) scabbard with parallel sides and oval frog stud. 4Mk. Feedback from the initial service performance at the front (often from prior experienced target shooters) indicated that longer slings with a central mount at the front of the magazine would be preferred. I with the broad-lipped steel mouthpiece. Other Nations Service and Replacement - Differing Nations have taken equipment from Great Britain and her colonies over the decades for frontline, secondary and domestic / internal service - Such as Italy and Holland immediately after WW2 - Israel and South Africa in the 1950s and 1960s India and Pakistan have kept their Lee Enfield's up and in reserve until a few years ago. The rear aperture is calibrated for 300 meters and flips up to become a ladder sight or another aperture sight calibrated for 600 meters depending on the model. No4 Mk2 - 1955. Lee-Enfield rifle 303 No.4 Mark 1. ROF (F)- Royal Ordinance Factory, Fazakerley, UK, FY- Royal Ordinance Factory,Fazakerley, UK, (F)-Royal Ordinance Factory,Fazakerley, UK, UF-Royal Ordinance Factory,Fazakerley, UK, Long Branch- Small Arms Ltd., Long Branch, Ontario, Canada, P.O.F.- Pakistan Ordnance Factory, Wah, Pakistan. 4 Mk. Savage-made bayonets are much cruder forgings than those made by either Singer or Long Branch. 1 for the British military. I've been privileged to shoot Lee-Enfield rifles before and have always found them to be worthy of their reputation as well built, accurate rifles. $8.69 shipping. This example was manufactured post-War for Belgium. The only maker was the Singer Manufacturing Co. (the famous sewing machine people), at their Clydebank, Scotland plant. Along with this will be the model designation, and below this, the serial number. Along with the manufacturers name both the date of manufacture and the type and mark of the rifle is also shown. RV# 11322, Socket: "No 4 Mk II" over a superimposed "LB". This "last-ditch" SMLE was manufactured in 1943, and it has all the signs of a wartime firearm made in the throws of desperation. The leather belt frog is of unknown origin. Markings on Lee Enfield rifles No4 serial numbers too. Entrenching tool with helve (handle) that accepts the No. The used value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has fallen ($5.68) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $600.00 . Since the overall length is 46", it will fit many other rifles. These later T's often went into stock as "Scopeless" - a rifle in a transit chest as a spare part - awaiting a need and the addition of a scope and bracket - plus all the other CES. I, with the bayonet and socket one solid forging. I scabbard may have been made in the USA, given the lack of any maker's or proof marks. 4 spike bayonet. The Enfield No4 MK1 was one of the most prominent battle rifles ever produced. Some of these rifles seemed to have laid in stores until the end of the war and then they and and the remains of the BSA marks were furiously converted to "T" status by H&H while the contract lasted. The tab measures 4.75in. The other makers were much less prolific. Description: Bayonet On the right the "England" stamp was a required format for origin to be imported into the US after @1965 and is clearly stamped through all of the finish layers. So I would say the "S" mark can be used for verification of a real rifle but it is not the main course of study. broad arrow proofmark 1943" over "CAT. Gun Parts, Enfield Model 1917 or Others, Iron . 4 Mk. 4Mk. The No. Sheffield Steel Products produced approximately 670,000 Mk. 0000001613 00000 n . 4 Mk. SMLEs will have serial numbers stamped on the bolt, receiver, barrel, nose cap and the underside of the rear sight. The example pictured at left also carries the Canadian "broad arrow" mark, indicating acceptance into Canadian service. As the war drew to a close the field feedback resulted in a prototype webbing target style sling being trialed (made by MECo). The period of manufacture is believed to be late-1940s or early-1950s. & S. Ltd." = Fred Fisher & Sons Ltd. "JW (S) Ltd." = John Wilson Ltd., Sheffield, "TRM.1", "TRM.2", and "TRM 3" = Tinsley Rolling Mills Co. Ltd. of Sheffield. 1944 Enfield No.4 Mk1*(T) Long Branch TP Sniper Rifle Serial # 74L0318 (Converted by Long Branch Arsenal, Ontario, Canada) c/w matching Telescopic, Sighting C No.32, Mk.I(TP) (Trade Pattern) Scope Serial # 4392S (Mfg by Lyman-Alaskan) . not 8.8 Barrel length is 25 1/4 inches, not 25 2 inches I (T) and No. (pictured at left) The M47C is typical, as is the date and TR mark. Thank you for the welcome. The No. 4 Mk. This article, "Exploded View: Lee-Enfield No. Known Issues: PA 3rd Person broken (Wont fix) Tape clipping. The bayonet and socket were one solid forging. 0000004719 00000 n 5 will have "Rifle No 5 Mk I" electrostencilled there, [20] while a post-war conversion will generally have either no markings or markings from manufacturers who did not make the No. TRIGGER Lee Enfield British Enfield No.4 Mk. Savage marked their bayonets with the letter "S". The Lee-Enfield rifle was first adopted by the British as a military arm in 1895 and . Moncton, N.B. 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