I went 7SAUM. You are using an out of date browser. include more options in rifles and ammo, more accessible and less expensive ammo, less recoil, a potentially shorter, handier, lighter rifle, and longer barrel life. Read Next: Small Calibers for Big Game. RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. First, notice that kinetic energy remains above the elk killing minimum of 1,500 ft-lbs at 700 yards. The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. 28 Nosler brass can be a pain to find, same goes for the ammo. Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. Just picked up a tikka for a donor build for a lightweight 6.5 PRC or 7mm SAUM. 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I would also add that if you are not going to optimize the rifle to get the most out of the 28 Nosler just stick with the tried and true 7mm Rem mag. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. Mag., the 264 Win. I'm going 7-300prc because it'll out pace a 7mag by 100-150fps with all bullet weights at much more manage pressures. So Im going through this same thing Are you wanting to run a shorter barrel? Clearly Hornady wasnt trying to break any speed records with the 7 PRC. Mine is a 26" 1-9 twist non saami 280 ackley. With 165gr bullets the 300 has a fair amount of recoil with a 150gr it feels more like a 30/06. Creedmoor Sports $ 120.95 . The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. I did shoot a black bear years ago with a 140gr Sierra, ugly. Mine shoots factory 160 class ammo at 1/2 MOA (5 & 10 shot groups) in the mid 2900s with SD in the mid teens. And more recoil. 28 nosler is a great choice for the heavies mine is throated for the 195 eols but im gonna try the 190 atips soon. Categories Nosler Unprimed Brass 204 Ruger $ 53.82 - $ 208.59 Select options Nosler Unprimed Brass 220 Swift (50) $ 84.99 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem (100) $ 111.28 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 222 Rem Magnum (250) Unprocessed Rated 5.00 out of 5 $ 215.54 Add to cart Nosler Unprimed Brass 223 Rem $ 50.18 - $ 206.83 Select options Of course, you can exactly match 7mm ballistics with a .308 bullet if BC and MV are identical. HOWEVER, I don't follow the logic of having to use a 26" barrel if you go the Nosler route. We are now conversant in 6mm, 6.5mm, 7.62mm and especially 7mm. Recoil of a 9# Rem. They are all throwing the same bullets more than hard and fast enough for anything. Trustpilot. Mag. The parent cartridge is a shortened 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. Have a 6.5 PRC and currently building a 7 SAUM. Howdy. I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. It will shoot as fast as a 7mm SAUM and brass is easy to find. 28 nosler is a great case, barrel burner, but if you're looking for say 3000fps w/ 195 at lower pressure, use H1000 or Retumbo, adg/gunwerks brass, and the brass will last you forever, take care the barrel and it may go 1000 rounds. Assuming that would be as illogical as assuming the 30-06 Springfield, 308 Winchester, and 223 Remington are strictly military cartridges. Im using Winchester brass, and it's showing no signs of wear after 8 or 9 reloads. Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. I'm not too familiar with the 7LRM, but I'm having a 28 Nosler built for hunting. 7 saum 7 rem mag 7 ultra mag 28 nosler The 284 and 280 appeal to me for lower cost (components and barrel life), but they are the slowest. If barrel quality is equally consistent, run-of-the-mill accuracy should exceed that of most rifles chambered for older 7mm cartridges. Ron Spomer The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. It only makes sense, case with 8gr less capacity out running the bigger case, it's because of pressure, and lots of it. Mag. Barrels are like truck tires. Nosler told me their bonded bullet is designed to retain 70%, same as the partition. If you dont own a 7mm of any kind and want one strictly for hunting, you might as well get the PRC version. ADG 300 PRC Brass. Another vote for 7 rem mag. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. Saw some shiney spots, no bolt lift but did open the pocket a little to the point of a few firings at 3120 fps. The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. With a 160 grain bullet the Winchester figures are 2990 fps and 3176 ft. lbs. The 7 SAUM is a short-action, magnum cartridges similar to the 7 WSM. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. The 7max performance that Rich advertises is somewhat inflated and HOT loadings. I'm the same as you. John Whiddons dies are the nicest Ive ever used. 92 grs. Since this rifle will be used sparingly maybe I can afford to go with something a little harder on the barrel. These drawings will be incorporated during the next revision of the relevant SAAMI Standard. Mag. You see a 7mag throated with 250 freebore and adg brass can do all of this. As mentioned above, one of the nice things about the 7RM is factory ammo is plentiful and fairly inexpensive. One of the draws to the 7 SAUM is the availability of high-quality brass through companies like Norma and ADG. At SAAMI specs you really hinder the performance, need a little extra freebore to seat the bullets out further. runs at 2940 fps and the .280 AI runs at 2850 fps). First, the 7mm Rem Mag and 28 Nosler use larger diameter bullets than the 6.8 Western. Short, light barrels just dont do justice to high temperature, high velocity, high pressure, overbore magnum cartridges. factory 7mm Rem. The 28 Nosler uses .284 diameter bullets while the 300 Win Mag uses larger .308 bullets. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. bullets far, far downrange with minimal wind deflection and maximal accuracy. If you're only going to be shooting 160's, I think the regular 7 Rem Mag would definitely be a more economical choice. Your results may vary. I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. Mag. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm SAUM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.825", maximum case length 2.035". If you want 7mm magnum performance, youll have to change tires (barrels) now and then. The lighter, shorter 7mm bullets are preferred in these short case magnums. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr Trustpilot. 180-gr. Almost overnight the seven em em was on the lips of American hunters. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. A 24" nosler should still outrun a 24" rem mag (all other things equal). 7mm Rem. I go back and forth in my head 1000 times on choices, then I will decide on what I know that I want, then I'll see something else and go back to the drawing board. Specifically, the larger diameter .284 bullets used by those 7mm cartridges have about 5% more frontal surface area (also known as cross sectional area) than the .277 bullets used by the 6.8 Western (.0633 vs .0603 square inches). Crap I don't remember, I'd have to pull a bullet, I've ran H1000, Retumbo and lots of R33, that load was H1000 but I only have the speed in AB. The 28 is not going to be but about 25-50 FPS faster and it makes little difference. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. needed another shot behind the head to kill it. Three quid k shots can overheat a thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA. Copyright 2004, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. For Connaught we moved to 7mm SAUMs and in preparation of going to that FCWC I got . Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. Trustpilot. Mag. landed with a splash big enough to drench every deer/elk cartridge in North America. YMMV . Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. That results in performance like this: Whoa grandma! Also, is it worth getting a new rifle in the 280AI when I already have a 270 Win? If you compare Nosler .280 AI brass vs. Nosler 7SAUM brass, you get twice the cases (50) with the .280 AI for only $10 more than what it costs for 25 cases of 7mm SAUM. The 7 SAUM offers better performance than the 300 Win Mag in a package that is almost as small as the 6.5 Creedmoor. It made sense for me. Hper du kan nyte shoppingen din her! Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. You are using an out of date browser. Trustpilot. As the .30-06 Springfield has a .473 case head and uses the .470 +/- bolt face, any cartridges list on the above two bolt face diameter and action length database charts above, that also use the .470 +/- bolt face, and have a COAL of 3.34 or shorter, will work with .30-06 actions. &mm PRC. Well use a 10-inch diameter target zone for computing Maximum Point Blank Range. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but underrated standard velocity cartridges. JavaScript is disabled. Mag. Moose by the dozens have fallen to the 7mm Rem. Great availability of components and above all a barrel that will last 1500+ when used like a hunting rifle and cared for. Great case design, great bc bullets available, more efficient powder burn than most 7mm cartridges, low recoil, and very very accurate. 6.5 PRC. Handloaders can find .284" bullets (the diameter that all 7mm cartridges digest) as light as 100 grains, perfect for pasture rodents, coyotes, and even deer. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. He is having adg make brass for him, its head stamped and the neck diameter and length are correct for his design, will still need to be fire formed. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Mag. Creedmoor Sports $ 119.95 . Or just step up to the 7 SAUM and run 180s if you want more weight. Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . If you were to blow the taper out to .010" and add-in a 40-degree shoulder, you would only gain 1.9 grains of case capacity. $89.95. The 7mm SAUM is an ideal cartridge for long-range competition and long-range hunting. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. And heres the same 175-gr. The 175/180 class Bullets sneaking along (1/4 MOA) at 2950-ish give or take, certainly not to par with the newer selections. It slightly exceeds the ballistic performance of the short-action 7mm SAUM on the right. High-velocity cartridges are high velocity for a reason. I love 7mm, just wish it would modernize a bit. and exactly the same claim is made for the 7mm WSM. 7 saum and 7 rem mag seem like good compromises. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. Less well known in the U.S. (but more ballistically advanced) was the 7mm Weatherby Magnum from the early 1940s. from all the adds for the nosler 28, they have the data on the 7 rum dumber down to make them look better. I would expect the 300 PRC to mirror the performance. for their 7mm SAUM with a 140 grain bullet. Straight on shot into chest between the legs at about 50 yds. ( They are sitting on the shelf waiting , though.) In 1962 the 7mm Rem. I was tired of lugging the heavy, long, and heavy recoiling 30s around, but wanted more punch than my lighter 6.5CM. Clearly the 28 Nosler is the flat trajectory King here, but at the expense of more recoil, more powder, and a fairly large, standard-length action to fit the .534 rim/head circumference. The SAUM will be built on a long action. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. In 2001 Remington looked to the old .404 Jeffery case for its ultra-speedy 7mm. If the muzzle energy is higher, it will leave the bullet with higher energy. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. $94.95 $79.95. My vote would be for the 7 saum. Furthest down, around the primer pocket, the brass should be firm. Cartridge: 7 RUM. Minuteman. His bolt-action rifle was chambered for the confusing .275 Rigby. Definitely go 26" on the barrel. The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. Use a 1:8 twist and the 7RM will be no slouch. Teddy Roosevelt was so impressed that he used the 757 as a basis for what became the .30-06 Springfield. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. Mag., 7mm RUM, 28 Nosler,) you dont need a 7 PRC. The difference might surprise you. Most people are getting sub half moa. You can drive 10 mph and get thousands and thousands more miles out of your tires, but wouldnt you rather drive highway speed? If you reload ,other than initial brass price, the cost is nearly identical. 22 Nosler. Ban sober drivers from driving. My thinking was that good ol' 7mm RM. The 175 ELDX load Ive been using is so good no reason to try newer powders or bullets. Recoil with a brake should be not bad at all even with the light rifle. Hornadys 7mm PRC with its high B.C. Sounds like from above that ADG is making 7 MAX brass, which is what Rich told me last year would be happening. rifles. The 180 Berger VLD was my choice for terminal performance. Diver160651 Who cares. Trustpilot. Been looking for a while. and if you cant draw any tags, youd got a target rifle to tide you over. Either way a shorter fat case will be better With a shorter barrel. Minuteman. You could beat it by loading that same bullet in the 28 Nosler, but youre still facing the barrel burn out issue. I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. Full comparison of the 28 Nosler and the 7mm rum " Remington Ultra Mag" 2 big 7mm magnums that are very comparable. But, were I young and tough and starting from scratch, I might be lured into the .28 Nosler. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. The 180's will work with a 9 nit the bigger bullets will have a decided edge in the wind. In shorter barrels, performance declines dramatically. Fill this brass case with smokeless powder instead of water and, according to some handloading guides, 62.5 grains of Reloder 22 should shove a 175-grain bullet from a 24-inch barrel 2,870 fps. If you go the Nosler route, look into the freebore for the barrel. 7mm RM, 2,900 fps from 24 bl. Following since I want to do the exact same thing. Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. Links to technical data and drawings for the newly SAAMI accepted Cartridge and Chamber designs not yet included in SAAMI Standards are listed below. Buy Now. loads beautifully, delivering them sub-MOA out to 1,500 yards, then a mile just to say I did it. ADG 7mm Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Also note that some guys are reporting pressure issues at speeds other are reporting work with the 28. As for the 7 Rem Mag vs. the 7 PRC, the trajectory data indicates there is no appreciable difference out to 400 yards and not a heck of a lot more at 500 yards, so most hunters wont realize a major advantage with the PRC version. Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. When I add this up, I default to the 7mm Rem. But they didnt shorten anything. and instead recommends the 30-28 nosler, 300 norma and improved, and 300 PRC stating that each has 75% less throat erosion than the 28 nosler and with essentially identical ballistics. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. The 7mm Weatherby has the same recoil as a .300 Winchester Magnum, and many shooters can't come to grips with it. Since then weve met eight or ten other 7mms, but none has knocked the old 7 Rem Mag from its perch. The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. I set my dies to headspace off the shoulder and forget about the belt. Will be running as a long action so no worries about magazine issues. I agree mud, but where does the 284 shehane fall compared to the above cartridges? Has 260 rounds on it so its fully sped up. yea Im leaning more towards the 28 just cause I dont really want to fire form, I know its not the end of the world but just one more step. bullets, but not the longest and certainly not such long numbers as Hornadys 180-gr. Thanks. gavevare til innvarming, bryllup, bursdager og alle anledninger. Great performance, easy to neck a case down and a simple bushing change gets you great dies. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Thanks, BnG. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. Trustpilot. $120.95. Foot of the Big Belt Mountains near Townsend MT. Everyone who knows what they're doing headspaces off of the shoulder anyways, and you should not be doing load development with virgin cases, you want to fire form them first so the belt is a moot point. With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. That's what I would do unless you have to have something much faster. The sample Hornady 180-gr. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. Factory ammo all over, good brass fron Nosler, ADG, etc. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. I don't feel the need to give up barrel life (it may be a hunting rifle but I still practice with it) for a marginal increase in speed, as well as more powder and more expensive brass. Therefore recoil is not a problem with bullets of 140-150grs. John makes custom dies not just what is listed. If your just hunting without extended range sessions I'g use this over the 7rem mag. Run 230-240 freebore this will work for 180eldm, 184, 190,195 Bergers. Most hunters who resist target practice can get a lifetime of good accuracy out of these 7mms. ADG Brass. It's often put head-to-head with other popular calibers like the 7mm Rem. And the accuracy with both powders was great as well. Mag. Qty: Add to cart. Not to concerned about the barrel life, you cant expect Ferrari performance and get Prius fuel mileage haha theres always a trade off, I think a mild load in a 28 might be the best of both worlds. Then Remington blew the doors wide open with their new 7mm magnum chambered in their equally new and affordable M700 rifles. ADG 28 Nosler. Clearly the 7mm Rem. And most of the recent data for the rum is also on the weak side. Of course, this was an overreaction, but at the time millions were convinced the new 7mm was the do-all-end-all of deer/elk/moose and even bear hunting cartridges. JavaScript is disabled. You want 98.2 grains water capacity behind a seated 175-grain bullet? Before this barrel I had a 7 SAUM and I wasn't happy with how it fed from the DTA magazines. Its designed to send long, sleek, high B.C. No more than 7-pounds finished and field ready. ADG 7 SAUM Brass. 7rm for me. 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