It has never given me a lick of trouble, and whenever I am at a shoot where I want to do as best I can, it will be in my right holster, with a 3rd Gen Colt in my left. Oooo, I think I just got a new alias ; although bprevolver has got me beat exponentially. They are the Edsel of. Chambering is .44 Black Powder caliber, uses black powder or credible substitutes like Pyrodex. Shooting, Reading, Riding my Horses, Maintaining my Ranch, Conversing With Friends and Family, Fixing Guns, (good) Old Western Movies, CAS, guns and shooting, guitar, reading, writing, CAS, shooting of any kind, music, baseball, THINGS THAT GO BANG! If we receive written bids on a particular lot for identical amounts, and these are the highest bids on the lot at the auction, it will be sold to the person whose written bid was received and accepted first. Sharing and Usage Packing and Shipping This heavy revolver was originally manufactured by Remington and was widely used during the Civil War. - 2) a few of the triggergaurd and backstrap screw heads have flaked a bitcosmetic only so far. The man of many Colts (Fingers) hit the price line pretty damn close. Day 2 - Wednesday December 30th .44 Cal Black powder revolver, made in Italy, Re: .44 Cal Black powder revolver, made in Italy, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Of course it is one of the old ones which may be the reason. I have an ASM Colt clone. All wood with plank construction. Not responsible for accidents or items after sold. All items must be removed by Saturday 2pm unless prior arragnements are made. 1851 Navy Revolver by ASM, .44 cal, black powder-No . It has the Colt engaving reproduced on the cyclinder, brass frame, and beautiful wood handles. This is often But, since we don't spin in SASS, it's not a problem I worry about. 44 Made in Italy"Underneath the loading lever is the serial number "E51471"Above the wedge slot ""US" and ". Powered by Invision Community. As neat as that would seem it can also be a curse. frame colt 1860 tends to sell in the $200 +/- area. They thought if they started raising the price on their guns to in the, same range as Uberti that all the problems would go away. You have not registered for this auction. The Italian manufacturer ASM was sold and nowadays the pistol is made by Ardesa and imported to the USA by Traditions Firearms of Old Saybrook, Connecticut. Stamped on the right side of the barrel are the words, "A.S.M. This is a modern, working reproduction built in Italy by Armi San Marco (A.S.M.) These two revolvers just feel better ergonomically than either the Uberti .357's or the USFA .38 Special revolvers I have. 50-250 USD How do you clean a asm black powder 44 made in Italy? I have an ASM made, Cimarron marked, 1860 Richards. Description: A.S.M. I've never had any problems with them. I don't shoot as much as others on the forum so the wear on soft internal parts might not be as apparent to me as to more frequent shooters. I was told by the Chiappa folks, they changed the Armi Sport name to Chiappa because of this confusion. Condition: Used, As New Caliber: .44 (other/Cap & Ball) Item #: 917581988 Location: IL # 49909 Items in the Price Guide are obtained exclusively from licensors and partners solely for our members' research needs. Later David. Free shipping for many products! Property which is paid for but left on our premises for any reason in excess of sixty (60) calendar days is subject to sale by us with the balance of any funds recovered in excess of storage charges and any other fees being remitted to you. Or something like that. ASM 44 cal. Thanks to everyone I now have some knowledge about the guns. b.) Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. I don't know whatever happened to that lawsuit or maybe it was just a rumor? ASM 1847 Walker. with the words "Engaged 16 May 1843". i have a 44 caliber black powder only pistol, made in Italy, looks old, serial number 203246. . is not responsible for the correctness of any statement of any kind concerning any lot, whether written or oral, nor for any other errors or omissions in description or for any faults or defects in any lot. . AFTER THE SALE Made in Italy By A.S.M. Re: italian made .44 black powder revolver That's Armi San Marco, one of four Italian repro manufacturers. Unfortunately, ASM also changed their name to Chaparral about the same time. We carry a wide variety of CVA parts along with ASM and Pietta. CVA Navy 1851 .36 cal percussion, revolver, made in Italy, ASM black powder only NO FFL Dragoon Description: Exact replica of a Colt Navy 1851, .36 Caliber, dragoon in Ok condition for his age, a little rough, barrel cylinder and charging handle, Frame is Brass, in excellent condition made in Italy. Flag item for content or copyright Similar Items ASM .44 Caliber Black Powder Revolver, Made In Italy, Engraved Cylinder, He took the gun back. Very small, it fits in your hand. 16520, CIRCA 2007 Movement :Automatic, cal. Blue barrel, lever, cylinder and trigger. The rights and obligations of the parties with respect to these Conditions of Sale, the conduct of the auction and any matters connected with any of the foregoing shall be governed and interpreted by the laws of the jurisdiction in Indiana. If you received a mailing from us, (a) your email address is either listed with us as someone who has expressly shared this address for the purpose of receiving information in the future ("opt-in"), or (b) you have registered or purchased or otherwise have an existing relationship with us. Sounds like 44cal versions of the 1851 Navy but without a picture it's hard to tell. gun is in decent shape & bore is shiny & free of any corrosion. 44 MADE IN ITALY" is found . 2022 Pritzker Military Museum & Library. ASM 1858 1863 pocket. f.) to not allow any bids at any upcoming auction by or on behalf of the buyer to impose a late charge of one and a half percent (1.5%) per thirty (30) days of the total purchase price Guns marked EIG Navy were replica black powder pistols made by ASM in Italy, and imported by a man named Saul Eig of Miami, Florida. Kelvin Fisher - AU19500120 - 219-851-5670 d.) to resell the property publicly or privately with such terms as we find appropriate, to resell the property at public auction without reserve, and with the purchaser liable for any deficiency, cost, including handling charges, the expenses of both sales, our commission on both sales at our regular rate, all other charges due hereunder and incidental damages. Larry Fisher - 574-298-8909, Auction Terms & Conditions Auction Terms & Conditions Auction Terms & Conditions General Terms: Cash, all major credit cards, or good check with positive ID. Most of the pieces are in a ziploc bag saved for what purpose I don't know. Replica Arms of El Paso, TX was started by L.F. Allen. Reserves are agreed upon with consignors or, in the absence thereof, the absolute discretion of Kraft Auction Service LLC. Items under $1,000 are collated upon request. Trigger pulls at an exceptionally light 1 1/4 pounds with no felt creep. Steel frame with consecutive serial numbers, manufactured in 1982. A fine 18K white gold automatic chronograph wristwatch Cosmograph Daytona, Ref: 116519, Rolex. The highest bidder acknowledged by the auctioneer will be the purchaser. Virtual Preview on Kraft Auction Facebook Page: December 28th 5pm-7pm, Auction Pick-up: December 30th - January 1st 9am-5pm and January 2nd 9am-2pm. It only has the SM on the barrel. As I see it though, these pistols are the equivalent of comtemporary Piettas. of an American revolver originally designed and produced by Colt in the 19th century. See Sold Price. Search the Digital Collections representing our digitized holdings across a wide spectrum of materials include artifacts, prints, posters, maps and more. a handling charge of $50 for any check dishonored by the drawee. A prospective buyer must complete and sign a registration form and provide identification before bidding. We will never share, sell, or rent individual personal information with anyone without your advance permission or unless ordered by a court of law. what ever happen to "army san marcos" guns ? Questions encouraged. ASM 1861 Navy. 7906, black dial, applied baton markers, baton hand, 54"x 44"h Black and white Framed Sheep Pastel/Charcoal. I had a few ASMs in the very early days. Pistols ASM Colt caliber . Failure to Collect Purchases That is a felony. There's a "For sale" section at the top of the black powder forum (here). for example $500, but the same gun with a bad or rusted bore may in Italy since 1950, regardless of type, receive the first stamping. Purchased Lots BLUED FINISH, WOOD GRIPS, BRASS FRAME, 8" BARREL, 6 SHOT. So based upon my experience, ASM is a solid hit or a wide miss. 50-250 USD What does asm on a pistol stand for? Don't try, either, to circumvent any law; for example, a California civilian may not buy a high capacity magazine and have it shipped to his brother-in-law in Nevada. It was like 1-2 years before they went out of businnes. Trades Accepted: We Buy, Sell, or Trade. A.S.M. There should also be a rollmarked A.S.M. CONNECTICUT VALLEY ARMS .32 CAL BLACK POWDER PERCUSSION MUSKET. Any clues as to if it is a Uberti or not would be appreciated. Very nice condition. Located at 9224 S 875 E Walkerton, IN. Hoe can I get a replacement? The fact they are consecutive numbers may add a little value. Changes were made in the production guns to make sure they could not be passed off as an original. ITEM: ASM Remington Black Powder Revolver DESCRIPTION: 1858 Remington black powder reproduction Manufacturer: ARMI San Marco Model: Remington Black Powder Revolver Caliber: 44 Cal. I took to to a gunshop that has a lot of cowboy guns. FOOD, REPRODUCTION HMS VICTORY BLACK-POWDER CANNON: Mounted on a newer base with metal wheels, the barrel is marked Made in Argentina, barrel measures 20.5" in length, WEIGHT, as is condition. Kraft Auction Service LLC. They are two different Italian firearms manufacturing companies. A fine 18K 'Everose' gold automatic chronograph wristwatch Cosmograph Daytona, Ref: 1165 Rolex. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. It was stiff, clunky, and in the words of a couple of different pards, "painful to watch" me trying to use it. Grip and frame finish are consumer finished. Kraft Auction Service LLC. Details; Terms; Directions; . #44 Black Powder CVA 45 Caliber Kentucky Rifle Steel Nose Cap Screws (Unused) $4.41. They make the guns for Chiappa now and the quality is still the worst out of Italy. Approximately 34 inches x 44 inches. Guns Pistols Colt Replica Italian etc. Serial number 09485. . The 2nd ASM is a Colt SAA clone, the EMF "Hartford" model. Used New; Trade In: $178.44: $186.02: Private Party: $274.52: $286.19: View Data View Sold. Also available to NRA members on - line for free on c.) to cancel the sale The email address {0} has been subscribed to the email list. In addition to the hammer price, the buyer agrees to pay Kraft Auction Service LLC. Pick Up Will be Available at Our Kraft Facility in Valparaiso, 2- Day Online Only Prospective buyers are strongly advised to personally examine any property in which they are interested before the auction takes place.. All lots are sold AS IS and without recourse and neither Kraft Auction Service LLC. 5.5" barrel in .45 Colt. and its consignor(s) make no warranty or representation, express or implied, that the purchaser will acquire any copyright or reproduction rights to any lot sold. The Colt uses a "rampant" pony where the ASM is a pony just standing. Cash, check, or credit payments for those invoices over $2500 with a 3% discount for cash or check payments. The barrel is round and 7 1/2 inches long. I've thought I might make a lamp out of it one day. Copyright 2019 sassnet.com The original 1858 was a substantial and reliable piece of machinery as is ASM's quality version offered here. 312-374-9333, Tuesday Saturday Campfire Tracker. Of course, I didn't run them like the hot shoes. Buyer's Premium . I saw it sitting used at a local gunshop a few years ago for $250 bucks. Provenance: Topsfield, Massachusetts. Single action 6-shot revolver, Features, Front brass bead sight, Blued octagon barrel and cylinder with engagement scene, Case hardened loading lever and hammer, Brass frame and trigger guard, Plain wooden grips, Original box. Sights are threaded brass post front, with notched hammer face rear sight. In normal, average working condition you can find these for sale all day long in the $150 to $200 range. it has under loader : ASM Black Powder only Cal. I had a Peacekeeper ASM and also a Longhorn in .45, never had trouble with them but I didn't have them very long, I sold them and bought my first Colt! PRICE: $633.98 MANUFACTURER: CONDITION: New MODEL: SOLD: 1/2/2023: UPC: LOCATION: San Antonio, TX 78223 SKU: 4759 CALIBER: MANF. Chiappa (I visited them too) it a totally different story, rather "big" factory. We charge $25 per hour for labor to pack items, cost of packing material, and actual shipping cost. Date code is AH, 1981 production, and this revolver comes to us from the estate of its only owner. has the right, at our complete discretion, to refuse admission to the premises or participation in any auction and to reject any bid. details in the search and see what is selling and for how much. Virtual Preview on Kraft Auction Facebook Page: December 28th 4pm-5pm Rare US coins, Carson City, Nevada history, Redheads. You will not be able to bid in this auction without registering. Thanks for the info. He examined the gun and proclaimed it one of the good ones and made me a really good offer that I applied to a like new in box NMV. Credit card on file will be run immediately after the auction for invoices totaling under $2500. ARMI SAN MARCO pistol For Sale. Top is labeled "Navy Arms Ridgefield nj." Bottom side has a six digit number "1001XX". A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years. Which is greater 36 yards 2 feet and 114 feet 2 inch? List them and see what happens. Jonathan Kraft AU10500173 Were offering this one, however, for only $ 139.00. Lot # : 74e - ASM Black Powder .44 Cal Revolver. This is an unusual brass single shot, .31 caliber, in-line, black powder percussion Derringer. Brass frame, trigger guard and back strap. Don't mistake reserved prices for selling value. View Item in Catalog Lot #216 (Sale Order . Pietta Model 1851 Navy .44 Cal Unbox | Cabelas Black Powder Revolver Fix It Now 59.9K subscribers Subscribe 90K views 9 years ago Here is an un-boxing of the popular Pietta 1851 .44 Cal. nor its consignor(s) makes any warranties or representations, express or implied with respect to such lots. By bidding at auction you agree to be bound by these Conditions of Sale. Revolver Black Powder Made in Italy Ser. Both can be fixed just like Colt fixed them in the day. Depending on All items are sold as-is. Open: Tues - Sat black powder only, Cal 44, made in Italy." west, and a Ruger old army may sell higher in the northwest than If you're looking to sell they wont bring much. Previous manufacturer located in Gardone, Italy, acquired by American Western Arms, Inc. in 2000 and reorganized as American Western Arms, Italia. $2,475.00 'Man 1884--1891'. Pietta, Steel Frame 4-7/8" Sheriff G18513 $279.00 $279.00 . When making a bid, a bidder is accepting personal liability to pay the purchase price, including the buyer's premium, all applicable taxes and all other applicable charges, unless it has been explicitly agreed upon in writing with Kraft Auction Service LLC before the commencement of the sale that the bidder is acting as agent on behalf of an identified third party acceptable to Kraft Auction Service LLC., and that Kraft Auction Service LLC. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. Brass frames look like just that - brass. Any and all of the conditions may be waived or modified in the sole discretion of Kraft Auction Service LLC More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. i have never owned or shot a black powder pistol. 7% Indiana Sales Tax. View sold price and similar items: ASM BLACK POWDER HANDGUN 44 CAL ITALY from Imperial Auction on Invalid date EDT. The right rear of the barrels are marked with two Italian proof marks. I haven't had a lick of trouble out of it, other than losing the ejector housing screw. Questions encouraged. The Armi San Marco brand is not as highly valued as the Uberti Non Payment Chicago, IL 60603 At our option, payment will not be deemed to have been made in full until we have collected funds represented by checks, or in the case of bank or cashier's checks, we have confirmed their authenticity. If you see one for sale someplace, check it out carefully before you buy. Replacement price on this revolver is upwards of $300 in our area. A nickel plated frame could be brass or steel, magnet test would tell. .31 Cal single shot Brass Italian Derringer. what your gun is selling for. They now make a 92 rifles, but it does function better than the old ASM 92's. Execution of written bids is a free service undertaken subject to other commitments at the time of the sale and we do not accept liability for failing to execute a written bid or for errors and omissions in connection with the written bid. Deer Creek Products: New Legacy Sales: Home *Online Store* . Any items not picked up on those days, will automatically be forfeited. It has blondish colored Italian hardwood grip panels. N. 8CA371851NA44" Armi San Marco. Day 1 - Tuesday December 29th We believe this Italian replica of the Colt 1862 Pocket Navy Model revolver is Armi San Marco production, of Brescia, Italy. Payment All items must be removed by January 2nd 2pm after the sale unless other arrangements are made. Stainless steel. 3% service fee for credit cards. 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